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Jim Pope, Rutgers Law Professor    Conversation
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Jim Pope
Rutgers Law Professor

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I first got interested in labor rights during the four years I worked in a shipyard. After that, I went to law school. I took a course in constitutional law, and my teacher acted as if labor rights had nothing to do with the Constitution. And I thought, gee, that’s odd. So I started looking into it. I’ve spent years in archives. It’s such ancient history, and a lot of it has been forgotten.

The labor movement was actually a leading force in putting the First Amendment on the map. Until this century, there wasn’t a single U.S. Supreme Court decision enforcing the First Amendment. But in the late 1920s, there were all these spectacular battles where Wobblies would come into town and start speaking from soapboxes and get thrown into jail. Those fights brought the First Amendment to people’s attention.

DEMANDING OUR RIGHTS

And yet, eventually, the law was interpreted so that workers and unions were excluded from the First Amendment. Labor rights always get short shrift whenever they come up against anything else, especially property rights. And it leads some of us to feel that there’s a structural problem we need to correct in the National Labor Relations Act.

There are several things we might be able to do with the ideas we present in this paper. One is that they could serve as the basis for civil disobedience in the right kind of situation.

In the 1930s and 40s, the labor movement fought so hard for the principle that you don’t let the factory operate during a strike. Employers where unions were strong didn’t even attempt to operate during a strike until the late 1970s. Because workers said, "You may not take our right to organize seriously, but we do. And if you violate our right to organize, we’re going to stop production." That was the sanction workers put on the employers.

So now, when we’re facing routine labor law violations, the idea of going back to that kind of self-enforcement — stopping production or mass picketing — seems a lot more plausible than getting Congress to enact strong penalties on employers who violate workers’ rights.

TOWARD A NEW STRATEGY

The purpose of this paper is not to say what labor’s strategy ought to be. But we want unions to know that if, for instance, they need to do civil disobedience, their rights derive from the Constitution. And that may affect their strategy.

I also think there’s a place for legislation to ensure that we have constitutional rights in the workplace or on private property.

We need to generate discussion about what a labor law built on the idea of organizing as a fundamental human right would look like. And that’s where we’re not yet very far along. We need to begin thinking about a way we could totally replace the NLRA with something based on the idea that organizing is a basic human right.

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