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January, 1999 Labor Party Press


Conversation with

Ron Baker

Ron Baker is Organizing Director
for the United Mine Workers of America

Ron Baker

photo ©Michael Kaufman, Impact Visuals

My union had about 65 people at the convention. We’re going to do better next time. We only had four people at the Labor Party’s founding convention.

Our goal is to triple the number of UMWA members in the Labor Party in the next two years. I think we’ll be able to do that pretty handily. And with a systematic organizing plan, I think we’ll be able to get 25 or 30 percent of our locals affiliated as well.

What we’re doing to organize is we’re sending reps to local meetings. The first thing we talk about is the issues that impact the union that we need to do something about legislatively now. The second thing we try to relay to members — and you don’t have to work too hard to do this — is that there is just no urgency on the part of politicians to solve our problems. And then we just launch into talking about the Labor Party. Usually the local leadership recommends to the local members that they affiliate with the Labor Party, and then the vote comes from the floor. And everywhere the vote’s been taken, it’s passed.

We just don’t get much argument from people. In fact, most of the time you’ve got to make an argument about why you’ve got to support the Democrats on certain things. Things have really changed, and I hope they continue to change. Sometimes it takes really difficult circumstances for a union to recognize that it has a problem with the way things are going. We’ve seen it as a problem for a long time and [UMWA President] Cecil Roberts has been talking about alternative politics for a long time.

I think the UMWA members who were at the convention like the concept of the Labor Party, and they believe it’s the direction we’ve got to go. However, there was a lot of debate on the floor about not a lot of things. Our conventions are run somewhat differently. If you don’t have a resolution that is timely, you have to muster the support of two-thirds of the delegation to bring it up. So our members were not accustomed to a motion and a second going off into an hour-and-a-half long discussion, especially when only a small number of people supported it. I understand that some of the people there had never been in a union or gone to a convention before. And they felt this was a place for them to say what they wanted to say. But it can’t bog down 95 percent of the people.

Our delegation had one slight disagreement on a resolution. It was the one about whether a chapter needed 250 members to qualify, or just fifty. If the party had 20 million members, I could see how you could say, "Anyone who doesn’t maintain a certain level, work harder and see you next week." But we can’t afford to throw a hundred people out. But other than that, I enjoyed the convention. And I give a lot of credit to the people who chaired it, because the rules were not favorable to them.

If you looked over the delegations that were at the convention, you see a lot of people who are aligned or have been aligned with industrial unions in this country. And the reason they’re so damned mad is that not only have politicians, but a lot of other sectors in this country have basically written off heavy industry and those of us who actually make things. And they’re pissed off about it. Our members are not really willing to just lay down and say, "Our days are over, and now let’s just go take a computer class." Eventually everybody’s going to be working at Domino’s. There’s nothing out there to rejuvenate our communities.

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